Tuesday, February 6, 2007

OK GUYS I"VE GOT 75 NEW OINK INVITES TO HAND OUT!!!


just write a 500+ word post in the comments explaining why you think file sharing is an ok thing and your best proposal for decriminalizing file sharing.

also please certify that you have no ties to the riaa.

invites will be handed out at the end of the five week period :)

10 comments:

John said...

nice pig

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the end. send invite to: jamestakeabow@gmail.com

Jainny said...

Well-well... Of course, file sharing is ok. I even can't imagine my life without it today. File sharing helps you find things you need sometimes these are really rare things that can't be found anywhere else. Also you can share your files with others making them discover something interesting and new. With file sharing people can share interests and find new friends which in my opinion is great! RIAA?.. No, no and no! I'm nowhere near this thing :)
Several words about Oink.me.uk. I've heard a lot about this tracker being a wonderful place for music sharing. Recently I've started my collection of lossless music and I really need oink's invite to continue filling it in. I also already have quite a lot of rare albums that I'll be glad to share with others. So... please-please, help me get an invite! mailto: jainny@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

I think that filesharing is a good thing, or at least, an acceptable thing because in my opinion, there’s no actual “stealing” going on. By my definition, stealing is when your gain of something is directly associated with another person’s loss of the same thing. Because the artist doesn’t lose a copy of a cd when someone downloads it, it’s not nescessarily stealing. Also, it’s effectively the same as going to the library and renting it, or borrowing it from a friend. If it’s really illegal, why don’t they ban itunes, or windows media player, or other ripping tools? It’s also the same with videos, there are tools like dvdshrink, etc, and they’re perfectly legal. Secondly, it’s a way that you can preview albums or movies, without actually buying them. I personally will only download a torrent if I’d be willing to buy it, and if I don’t like it, I just delete it, or give it to someone else. Because data is an infinitely reproducible resource, it’s just so easy to download and utilize things that we need over the internet. It’s also okay when you already own a copy of the item that you’re downloading. If you bought a game, or a cd, and the disc got scratched, it isn’t fair for you to have to go out and spend the money on a new copy of the game, whereas it’s easy to just download an iso or an mp3 of the thing you already own. It’s why I like the steam game distribution system so much, because you buy the game, and so long as you don’t forget your user and pass, you can have the game whenever, wherever. And also, sometimes you want something that you just can’t have, either because of parents, or because you’re underaged. Now, this is different from stealing liquor, because watching rated R movies, or playing rated M games won’t destroy your liver. But if you’d buy it when you’re eighteen, I find it to be perfectly acceptable to download for a little “preview”.
I honestly don’t know of any way we could decriminalize file sharing, except by only sharing indy music and videos. Quite honestly, the song/movie/game still belongs to the artist/writer and actors/publishers before we’ve bought it, and they can legally sue “personally because of our messed up judicial system” because they count money as a worthy substitute for whatever they’re selling. The only way people will see no wrong in file sharing is if they have the morals that tell them that. I personally believe in a society that works for themselves, much like anarchy, but not quite to that radical extent. I therefore see wrong in depriving someone else of something they need. However, because data is easily reproduced, noone is deprived of anything, and we get what we need. It’s not a temporary exchange, it’s actually a permanent replication of the item, and that’s a very attractive thing to me. I like games, and movies, and music, and sometimes I just don’t have the money. I like to be able to use said itemes if I want. As for certifying that I have no ties to the RIAA, I give you this screenshot: http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9467/torrentsrocksv5.jpg and my word. I hope it’s enough. If you decide I’m worthy of an invite, here’s my email: manopie14@gmail.com

Thank you for this opportunity.

--manopie14 (AKA Greg)

Anonymous said...

Let’s do this:

File sharing opens new horizons, new points of view… You can get things that you never dream (and I mean great things). Sharing is important because you are helping others to get want they need or are curious to know, and knowing new things means knowledge (musical, cultural, etc.). One advantage of sharing is meeting persons with similar “tastes”.
The human societies arose for the fact of sharing. What’s the point of making/discovering something and not share it?
I’m not sure how to decriminalizing file sharing, maybe is sharing the answer.
When you share you are open a way to others that don’t have the opportunity to get something.
RIAA? (I have to make a wikipedia search). Anyway I’m user on demonoid:

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m310/Enriafster/demonoid.jpg

Sorry for my bad English. And the lucky ones that will get a invite, please share they.

Tempurite (tempurite[at]gmail.com)

Thanks for sharing your invitations.

Unknown said...

I believe that file sharing is ok and actually really cool because everyone helps each other get what they want or need. Also most of the people who made the files are already rich so does it really matter if we share our files with one another. For instance 50 Cent is rich and you can find his albums at various file sharing websites. It just saves us time and effort to receive these files. I believe that file sharing is a good thing especially if you own the file legally because it saves a whole lot of time and effort to make backups on your computer. Also I think that it’s stupid that if you bought an item legally and it gets scratched and ruined that you have to go out and pay for another copy when you could just download it from a great site like oink. Also I think that if you download a file then you should help share them because it’s no fair if someone downloads something and you can’t because no one is sharing the file at the time.

I also believe that since there are a lot of non-computer buff people in this world then why should have to buy or own the disk when we have the knowledge to use file sharing. I think if we spent the time to learn how to file share and help share files then we should have the right to share our files with one another. I don’t believe file sharing is stealing because it’s the world of internet and not the real world in which we live in. Also I think that if we have to work so hard in order to have a good source of files in which we download, like having to type literally a huge essay then we should have the right to get what we’ve worked for. Also it can be hard to find things in stores in which it’s the companies fault for not getting enough copies for everyone, which file sharing is always a reliable source and a good way to get these items.

The RIAA is a load of crap just trying to get more money out of you because you decided that since you couldn’t find the latest movie in stores in stock that you would go and download it because it’s better thing to do. They should realize that if they don’t want people to share files then that’s like taking away email from the world. Also maybe if they got companies to actually release a decent amount of copies to all stores nearby or an easy access way to reach them and maybe a actual affordable price then maybe we would actually consider buying the real version of the disk or whatever. If all the producers of there work is worried about not making enough money from there records then they are just not good enough as an artist!

Anyways this is my 500 words on file sharing and here’s proof of no ties

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/sk8_to_snw/SweetSuccess.jpg

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Emails:
bwhaytack@inbox.com sk8_to_snw@hotmail.com bwhaytack@gmail.com

I worked hard on this and it would be really nice if you could send me an invite.

Thanks a bunch.

Anonymous said...

Getting Paid in Cyberspace

How all the foregoing relates to solutions to the crisis in intellectual property is something I've barely started to wrap my mind around. It's fairly paradigm warping to look at information through fresh eyes - to see how very little it is like pig iron or pork bellies, and to imagine the tottering travesties of case law we will stack up if we go on legally treating it as though it were.

I believe these towers of outmoded boilerplate will be a smoking heap sometime in the next decade, and we mind miners will have no choice but to cast our lot with new systems that work.

I'm not really so gloomy about our prospects as readers of this jeremiad so far might conclude. Solutions will emerge. Nature abhors a vacuum and so does commerce.

Indeed, one of the aspects of the electronic frontier which I have always found most appealing is the degree to which it resembles the 19th-century American West in its natural preference for social devices that emerge from its conditions rather than those that are imposed from the outside.

Until the West was fully settled and "civilized" in this century, order was established according to an unwritten Code of the West, which had the fluidity of common law rather than the rigidity of statutes. Ethics were more important than rules. Understandings were preferred over laws, which were, in any event, largely unenforceable.

I believe that law, as we understand it, was developed to protect the interests which arose in the two economic "waves" which Alvin Toffler accurately identified in The Third Wave. The First Wave was agriculturally based and required law to order ownership of the principal source of production, land. In the Second Wave, manufacturing became the economic mainspring, and the structure of modern law grew around the centralized institutions that needed protection for their reserves of capital, labor, and hardware.

Both of these economic systems required stability. Their laws were designed to resist change and to assure some equability of distribution within a fairly static social framework. The empty niches had to be constrained to preserve the predictability necessary to either land stewardship or capital formation.

In the Third Wave we have now entered, information to a large extent replaces land, capital, and hardware, and information is most at home in a much more fluid and adaptable environment. The Third Wave is likely to bring a fundamental shift in the purposes and methods of law which will affect far more than simply those statutes which govern intellectual property.

The "terrain" itself - the architecture of the Net - may come to serve many of the purposes which could only be maintained in the past by legal imposition. For example, it may be unnecessary to constitutionally assure freedom of expression in an environment which, in the words of my fellow EFF co-founder John Gilmore, "treats censorship as a malfunction" and reroutes proscribed ideas around it.

Similar natural balancing mechanisms may arise to smooth over the social discontinuities which previously required legal intercession to set right. On the Net, these differences are more likely to be spanned by a continuous spectrum that connects as much as it separates.

And, despite their fierce grip on the old legal structure, companies that trade in information are likely to find that their increasing inability to deal sensibly with technological issues will not be remedied in the courts, which won't be capable of producing verdicts predictable enough to be supportive of long-term enterprise. Every litigation will become like a game of Russian roulette, depending on the depth of the presiding judge's clue-impairment.

Uncodified or adaptive "law," while as "fast, loose, and out of control" as other emergent forms, is probably more likely to yield something like justice at this point. In fact, one can already see in development new practices to suit the conditions of virtual commerce. The life forms of information are evolving methods to protect their continued reproduction.

For example, while all the tiny print on a commercial diskette envelope punctiliously requires a great deal of those who would open it, few who read those provisos follow them to the letter. And yet, the software business remains a very healthy sector of the American economy.

Why is this? Because people seem to eventually buy the software they really use. Once a program becomes central to your work, you want the latest version of it, the best support, the actual manuals, all privileges attached to ownership. Such practical considerations will, in the absence of working law, become more and more important in getting paid for what might easily be obtained for nothing.

I do think that some software is being purchased in the service of ethics or the abstract awareness that the failure to buy it will result in its not being produced any longer, but I'm going to leave those motivators aside. While I believe that the failure of law will almost certainly result in a compensating re-emergence of ethics as the ordering template of society, this is a belief I don't have room to support here.

Instead, I think that, as in the case cited above, compensation for soft products will be driven primarily by practical considerations, all of them consistent with the true properties of digital information, where the value lies in it, and how it can be both manipulated and protected by technology.

While the conundrum remains a conundrum, I can begin to see the directions from which solutions may emerge, based in part on broadening those practical solutions which are already in practice.

So, in conclusion: Share, share and share alike.

Music keeps me sane, help me share sanity with you.

Thanks
Drucifer
wolf_blitzer2@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

adam,

i will send you tits.jpg for an oink invite :D

Anonymous said...

thank you, all your email address have been added to our database. expect to be contacted within two weeks.

Anonymous said...

oh dont pay any attention to her, that's just my native american friend Riaa.

She's a joker LOL.